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What’s that 5km from the station “location”

In our last installment we looked at stations which were pitch black. The case I examined, Middlesboro Kentucky illustrated 1. The station location data used by Hansen2010 has inaccuracies. 2. While the purported station location was pitch dark, nearby within a couple 1/100ths of a degree there were urban lights. What this example illustrated was that you have no assurance that a station which has Zero lights is in fact in a rural location. the principle reason? station mislocation. The first screen I looked at was a 3km screen. That is I looked for pitch black stations with urban lights within 3km. There are only a handful

In this post I push the boundary out and examine stations that fit two criteria:

1. Nasanightlights =0

2 DMSP nightlights > 35 ( urban class 1) within 5km.

What we are essentially looking for are larger errors in the station location data.  The proceedure is exactly the same. We screen for these stations. We plot the google earth map and the light contour on top of each other ( to show the algorithm works) and then we investigate the details of the station by using a google earth tour that is loaded with all the station of this class.

here are some samples








There are several things that become clear looking at these examples.

1. Airport locations have the wrong coordinates in the ROW.

2. US location data has better quality, in fact, using the 4 digit accuracy that is available from NCDC we can see that some sites, when properly placed are STILL pitch dark.

3. Coastal locations are particularly sensitive to this type of error.

Those observations may afford us some remedies. In the USA the remedies are fairly easy. Since the location data is good ( if you use 4 digit accuracies we can see that the probability that location errors result in miscoding rural as urban is small.

for the ROW we have to be concerned with Coastal and airport stations. I will quickly survey the coastal issue and the airport in  subsequent posts.

Oh, and ISA has been added to metadata. more on that later


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  1. cce
    October 22, 2010 at 5:35 AM

    Does the GHCNv3 “beta” have any better location data?

  2. Steven Mosher
    October 22, 2010 at 10:13 AM

    GHCN v3 does have some ushcn location information in it so yes.

    The USA is much better than the ROW. I hope to bring in the better information when I get down to the end. Basically, use the other inventories to correct where we can, use other metadata (airport lat/lons to high accuracy) see if I can do coastal corrections in some automated way. The cases where a dark station abuts an urban location are the easiest.

    But I want to automate the corrections as much as possible. This is really an easy problem to put to bed if folks just asked people to update their data. Then there would be a nice set of meta data.

  3. Steven Mosher
    October 22, 2010 at 10:14 AM

    oh the other issue is location changes.

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